PERFORMANCE LOSS IN BSFCE

Post by **Anna** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:20 pm

BSFCE and SMCE are far more limited in terms of performance than stock BSF. A ship with a mere 919 sections will load in neither one, attempts to do so result in both Ship Maker and BSF freezing for extended periods, and when they finally do unfreeze, they act like nothing happened. This is a severe drop in performance from stock BSF, where 1500-section ships could run, albiet with predictably high levels of lag.

Myself, EriErin and Darkship have all encountered this problem, with one of Darkship's ships.

Just thought I'd let everyone know: 1000-section monster ships will not work in BSFCE, particularly if you using a large variety of sections.

Post by **Arcalane** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:43 pm

The obvious solution is for you people to stop making such giant ships!

Venator · Post by **Venator** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:54 pm

Do the usual quickfixes (turning down the quality/switching to 16-bit colour) alleviate or fix this? I've yet to build a ship large enough to generate problems, though my 315-section Honour-Class takes about ten seconds to load in SMCE.

Post by **Kaelis** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:43 pm

Clarification: Nothing is for sure yet. It might be just a bug in the code.

Cycerin · Post by **Cycerin** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:55 am

At least now people like me who can't make the biggest stuff have a valid excuse.

Post by **Kaelis** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:44 am

Alright, found it.

You know what it was?

Another retarded 'feature' of GM.

Thats right. They arbitrarily put a limit on how much code you can insert into an event at runtime, but they didnt think it would be a good idea to mention it in the manual or anywhere else.

5 hours wasted because of this.

BoVinE · Post by **BoVinE** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:53 am

did you kill it? Also you're awesome.

Cycerin · Post by **Cycerin** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:17 am

Is that.. the cause of all the traditional slowdown?

ChaosTheory · Post by **ChaosTheory** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:27 am

Well, knowing is half the battle. Did you succeed in solving it (break the code up amongst multiple objects or something)?

Post by **Kaelis** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:31 am

Yeah, i fixed it. Removed encryption from sb4 as well - saving and loading is much faster now.

And no, its not the cause of the slowdowns due to large amounts of sections/weapons/etc. This is only about not being able to load a ship thats more than 800 sections, but Seraph has a different definition of 'performance' than everyone else =|

Post by **Arcalane** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:01 am

GG GameMaker.

Post by **Anna** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:16 am

Kaelis wrote:but Seraph has a different definition of 'performance' than everyone else =|

Dictionary wrote:per·for·mance
n.
...
3. the execution or accomplishment of work, acts, feats, etc.
4. a particular action, deed, or proceeding.
...
6. the act of performing.
7. the manner in which or the efficiency with which something reacts or fulfills its intended purpose.

Go fuck yourself, Kaelis.

Post by **Kaelis** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:26 am

Anna wrote: Go fuck yourself, Kaelis.

Pleased to be an asshole

TormakSaber · Post by **TormakSaber** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:17 pm

Well, you could argue poinnt 7, and "Intended Purpose" all day long if you wanted to.

Post by **Arcalane** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:11 pm

"Performance loss" doesn't accurately describe the issue anyway. It's not a loss, it's a complete failure on ships that are too large.